neowiccan ([info]neowiccan) wrote,
@ 2009-05-21 09:12:00
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Current mood: pissed off

swift annoyed post
i'm way behind on uploading pics and updating journal, but a quick snarl is called for. i'm deeply unhappy with obama on a number of things, although in the balance i'm still overjoyed to have him as POTUS. i'm royally pissed at our craven, pandering, short-sighted, criminally insane congress.
we have more prisons per capita than any other nation in the world. if there's one thing we can do, it's incarcerate. i've got a max security prison 10 miles down the road. the lights from that fucker create ambient light that interferes with my stargazing. put the terrorist suspects THERE.
when i saw that asshat maundering about the soldiers at levenworth don't want to be near terrorists i nearly went through the monitor. we can KILL them, but we can't have them in a close enough proximity to LEARN anything about them? (and pointedly, whether or not they ARE actually terrorists?????) we can warehouse the worst of rapists, child molesters, serial killers, psychopaths and crazies in our prisons, but we're askeered of the less than 300 at gitmo whose guilt hasn't even actually been established yet?
WTF?????
khairete
suz



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[info]ursus_of_unrv
2009-05-21 01:40 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, effed up stuff. I think the Congress is just trying to establish its independence from Obama, though this is not the issue with which to do it.

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[info]neowiccan
2009-05-23 02:08 am UTC (link)
i think so too. it's a bit of muscle-flexing, to show the constituency they're not being led around by the nose, dammit.
it's a herd of timid sheep trying to pass themselves off as lions.
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khairete
suz

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[info]momwolf
2009-05-21 02:19 pm UTC (link)
The problem with the congress is that the public in general is still afraid of the boogeyman (Terrorists) which may be hidng behind every tree. And the detainees at Gitmo, if brought to American soil, will then get the same rights that any other accused is afforded under The Constitution. As long as they are in Gitmo, They Aren't. The American Public just wants it to all go away. They don't want to really "See" what we are - or are not doing to them.

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[info]melia_suez
2009-05-21 03:51 pm UTC (link)
By my understanding (which may be very limited I admit), the reason they hesitate to bring them to the US is because they are accused of International crimes. This differs from US law and creates a whole bunch of other hassles. Not that I approve. The government needs to quit stalling and get this resolved.

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[info]labrys6
2009-05-21 04:47 pm UTC (link)
Accused mostly by US. We created this mess and now Congress wants to just sweep it under a distant carpet.

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[info]labrys6
2009-05-21 04:47 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, the whole Gitmo mess has me gnashing my teeth, too. I think America is doing her whole "lousy existentialist" thing again. America CHOSE to go along with a mad cowboy POTUS who violated everything about being American. Congress LET him lock up a bunch of folks who likely barely gave a shit about America before that time. Now that we have CREATED hatred in all of them, we are afraid to let them go. So Congress votes NO on money to end it; so what, we keep people that AMerica criminalized locked up for what...forever? Yeah, not happy here either. We are reaping what was sown in lazy apathy and ignorance.
And people wonder why I sometimes hate gardening!

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[info]armagh444
2009-05-22 12:08 am UTC (link)
Having been on more than one segregation unit in more than one maximum security prison, I can say with utter confidence that there are folks in there already who are a lot scarier than anyone in Gitmo.

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[info]neowiccan
2009-05-23 02:11 am UTC (link)
and it alarms me deeply that your work takes you there!
but if one small-but-feisty celtic recon can stomp in there and survive the proximity of baddies, it's almost insulting to our prison professionals that congress and dick cheney are afeered that we're not capable of containing some guys who have possibly already been so severely damaged by prolonged torture that they can't even testify on their own behalfs any longer.
gah!
khairete
suz

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[info]armagh444
2009-05-23 04:50 pm UTC (link)
Ironically, I am a lot less protected when I'm dealing with someone in gen pop than when I'm in seg. Either way, I am in a room with the client (necessary for confidentiality), but in seg I am sitting at a table with someone who is separated from me by a partition and who is cuffed with the cuffs attached to wrist restraints. If I have to pass something to the client, I have to signal a guard, who is sitting in sight though not in hearing, so he can come into the room and pass it for me.

In gen pop, my only protection is a panic button and the response speed of the guards on duty.

Oddly, I've never really been scared while in a prison.

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